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tnframer408
December 22nd, 2003, 07:33 AM
On another thread I was asked to list how I use temp services to shop the competitor. Here goes:

Like a lot of folks, I am reluctant to visit my competition. Not because I'm known but because I'd bring a prejudiced eye or thought into the shopping process.

So we've used a temporary service to do the shopping--a "secret shopper". But Ialso have this shopper shop us so I can have an accurate yardstick. And I don't know who they are because I give them the $30 to go buy a poster somewhere and then take it to me and six competitors to have it priced.

here's what Ilook for:

1) Store appearance--how does it look/smell/feel psycohologically (warm, friendly, inviting, would you spend big money there?)

2) Outward appearance--attractive window display, inviting appearance that asks you to come shop?

3) INterior mood--like #1, but is the art attractive, would you buy the stuff hanging on the walls, etc etc

4) cleanliness--could you crawl on the floor and not gt dirty? Could a shoeless baby be on the floor without getting hurt by glass shards, razors, wire ends, etc

5) Presentyation--how did the designer handle the project? Profssionally, with clean hands, etc etc

6) Cost. NOT am I cheaper or more expensive or any of that, but are you getting your money's worth in talent, looks, overall fit and finish?

Obviously, I break these down even further--in fct, my worksheet is about three pages long. BVut you get the idea.

I am a big believer in the fact that cost is #5 or 6 on the totem pole, that people buy you, your store, your appearance and attitude and your design before asking price.

so there 'tis. Hope it helps.

And as I said on the other thread, this costs us about $50 for a half day or so work. And we use women who are relatively unfamiliar with the process.

And finally, yes sometimes my own store fails in certain areas. But tht's a good thing, 'cause then we know where to make corrections, additions, etc

Bob Carter
December 22nd, 2003, 10:07 AM
Hi Michael-We have talked about this service before and it is a superb idea.

When we have our shoppers go out to do their research, we stress to look for things that others do better or unique. If the only purpose is to find out what we think we do better, we might as well stay home.

There are those that feel this process is unethical or improper, but there is so much to learn from each other. A trained (or directed) eye can gain much to improve our own operations. It is an intergral part of doing business

Terry Hart cpf
December 22nd, 2003, 12:04 PM
What a great idea! But can you really hire someone to drive all over town and visit 6 shops and fill out a 3 page questionaire for $50? I would expect it to cost 3 or 4 times that, maybe even more. It could still be money well spent but if you really get by on $50 I'ld like to hear more about how. I could get approval for $50 I'm sure but I may have trouble getting a lot more right now. Terry

gemsmom
December 22nd, 2003, 02:12 PM
Have you ever had one of these other shops actually frame something? How can you judge the quality of the work if you have not? I am alluding to #6 on your list.

tnframer408
December 23rd, 2003, 10:30 PM
First: the temp service chargs around $15 per hour and it takes about 3-4 hours to do. I mean my competitors--at least the ones I care about--are all about three miles' distance. So it takes a morning.

Pamela: yes, in the example, most are using Larson--which is a main supplier here since theyt deliver out of Atlanta for free--and I really emphasize I'm not too concerned about price as much as I am about beauty of design. yes, some of these guys are way cheaper, but the design looks it, or they use carboard/paper mats, reg glass, etc.

And yes, I've bought some of their framed works, taken them apart and seen how they're done.

I don't mind spending good money to see how my competiors are competing with me, how they're pricing and bhow they're building..

dns ynko
January 1st, 2004, 11:01 PM
Hey thanks for posting this, I thought it sounded interesting on the other thread, glad you had the time to post this one.

I think this is a fine idea. I think you could send out a shop employee to do something like this, but I do not see the need. I would want somone off the street to judge the shops in the area. Yes you want to keep the customers you have, but you want to attract the new folks also. The people that have not bought before to see if they would be comfortable buying in your shop. It is smart to get a piece done by them every now and again to see what and how they do their work.

I like that you don't mind being a little more expensive too. You are thinking about the whole package and not just one aspect of the buisness. Thanks for the pointers!!!!

Sorry it took me so long to respond TNframer

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