Pay Levels

[zonk]

I am hoping that all the other business owners can help me.
I need to know roughly whay you all pay your staff? I realize that different parts of the country pay diffrently, but I need some idea particularly from those of you in the New England area.

Lets break it do this way:
No real experence=
1-2 years good fitter, basic mats etc.=
2-3 years total bread and butter framer=
3-4 years filets, textiles, fabric mats etc.=
4-5 years skilled framer, handels most everything=
5-6 years totaly skilled=
7+ master framer=
Production Manager=
Geneal Manager=

I know this may be asking alot but any help you guys can give would be really great as I have alot to figure out in a limited amount of time.

[lindas3]

2-3 years experience gets $10 here and she washes the windows. :D

[RozR]

Zonk,

I see there have not been replies openly to your inquiry.

Perhaps it is because it is your first post and you are asking for rather private information from a group that has the answers but they don't know who they are giving the answers to!!

I personally am a one person shop so I can't respond effectively to your inquiry.

I hope you get the answers you need, because this is a great forum for knowledge and sharing and if it weren't for the grumble there are many occassions I would have not been able to complete a project if it weren't for the support of fellow grumblers and their infinite knowledge.

You are fortunate to have the availability of it before you embark on your endeavor.

Good luck,

Roz

[Mike Labbe @ GTP]

One great place to look for this info is the Grumble's VOTING forum. I believe this very poll was conducted less than a year ago, with some interesting results.

It's great to have you here. WELCOME to the grumble!

Mike

EDIT: I apologize for the bad advice. The poll conducted two months ago was for the "shop billing rate", not the employee pay rate. This might make an interesting poll, though. I know it has been discussed before.

[ 11-06-2003, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: Mike-L@GTP ]

[showcase]

Here in Washington DC, no experience would get $8.00 hour. I have heard that framers with over 10 years get $18 to $20 hour Rick

[Less]

I have heard that framers with over 10 years get $18 to $20 hour Rick Sad thing is most owners don't make that.

[David N Waldmann]

Originally posted by lessafinger:
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[framanista]

It would be nice to see this made into a poll, along with a question about what kind of benefits you give your employees. Or maybe no one wants to devulge that much anyway.

[wpfay]

I'm not sure which, but one of the trade magazines had an article about pay scales and regional variations. I know this because my employee brought it up in conversation not long ago. :eek:

That might be another reason you might not be getting as much response as you wish. I would imagine that a fair number of grumblers are employees. Employers are hesitant to talk pay scale in front of them.

[framanista]

I'm not sure which, but one of the trade magazines had an article about pay scales and regional variations. Does anyone remember what magazine that was? I'd realy like to know. Thanks. smile.gif

[ScottStratten]

Coming from my Human Resources experience in retail, you are asking for a 9 level pay range with what you originally asked for. Most places, even with skilled workers such as the ones employed in your industry would have no more than 5 levels, as in
1. Basic customer service clerk
2. Skilled Level 1
3. Skilled Level 2
4. Right hand man/woman
5. Owner/Operator (although a lot of them would argue that they're on the bottom of the pay scale at the end of the day tongue.gif )

Scott Stratten, President
Un-Marketing: Bringing customers to you (http://www.Un-Marketing.com)

[Jim Miller]

Originally posted by zonk:
..I need to know roughly what you all pay your staff?...Roughly, I pay them more than I should, and less than they're worth.

[CharlesL]

Welcome, zonk.
I have tried, with no real experience, to post a poll in the Voting Forum that may be of some help.

[UzZx32QU]

Assumption: Total labor =25%

If you can track a persons sales and production for the year and assign them both a value like 10% (if they sell $100 and produce $100 that = 20% 0r $20 worth)

So if a person Sells $100000 and produces $100000 = 20,000 / 2000(40 x 50) hour per year = $10.00hr

You also need to pay worker comp - matching fica - health benefits and vacation pay out of the 5% extra.

If a person produces more they need a raise. If you doesn't meet your goals find another.

OK before you all flame this one I know it's not for everyone. It's just a starting point.


framer

[framanista]

I'm not sure which, but one of the trade magazines had an article about pay scales and regional variations. Has anyone remembered what magazine that was? :(